By : Kan Yaw Chong
The new President of WWF International is Ecuador’s former Minister of Environment 1998-2000, YOLANDA KAKABADSE, who visited Sabah mid May to attend the top-notch NGO’s Annual Conference 2010, at the Star.
In 2005, Yolanda was recognised with the Lindbergh Award for her lengthy record of co-ordinating the efforts of international environmental agencies for resolving conflicts between industry and environmental concerns throughout Latin America and the world, especially in sustainable development relating to energy, trade and forest management. Yolanda co-founded the Foundation Natura in Ecuador, rated as one of the world’s most effective environmental NGOs.
In an exclusive interview with the Daily Express, the moral leadership of Yolanda as a critic of "wealth without values" became evident as she answered questions. She speaks and writes books on the ‘role of ethics’ in globalisation especially how to find ways of giving higher priority to "being" instead of "having", ie. give more emphasis on values and check the prosperity craze that is driving consumption to dizzying height.
During the Earth Dialogue 2002 in Lyon, France, she was reported as saying: " We have prioritised ‘having’ over ‘being’.
We practise remediation rather than prevention. Science and technology are developing weapons of destruction instead of instrument for creation."
Here she talks to Special Writer KAN YAW CHONG.
DE: So how should we protect this Semporna /Darvel Bay clearly marked out in red blobs by WWF as a Priority Conservation Area which WWF has clearly marked out, against heavy coastal industries?
Dr Sharma: So from broad understanding to specific commitments, as I said, resourcing the actions that are the ones that the governments have articulated and had made the commitments to themselves – how to ensure they keep themselves in tune with their own commitments, how to ensure that they periodically meet and exchange the progress that they are taking to work together but also equally important is the part where we exercise our own mandates. If we are doing something that is land-based that brings impacts on the marine environment, I would expect governments of the joint declaration to address the problem. It is really the shared parts of the joint declaration that we have to work together but there must be a lot of things that must step up to the pledge and be accountable for the things that impact.
So, as you can imagine, if agriculture and the effluence that feeds into the rivers and flow out into the sea and brings that detrimental effect, that’s ours to tackle. We would not have to wait for the joint declaration.
We have to tackle it ourselves because we see the immediate effects.
We owe it ourselves.
DE: So one big problem and worry about Darvel Bay is the proposed coal-fired plant in Sinakut and the prospect of non-stop waste water discharge into this bay. Is WWF doing anything to advice the Government against it?
Dr Sharma: Coal-fired plants are very damaging to the environment.
Even if you put aside the various grades of coal that can be used, what it spews out and all the impact that it has in increasing temperature from the cooling process. So WWF has been in public domain already because we actually have a coalition against the coal-fired power plant but that coalition against the coal-fired plant came up-front to try to tell the Government. We should invest more in understanding the future scenario of energy needs, understanding the mix that we can have if we start to think and invest with a full street of producing the energy we need , going to renewables obviously, but also understanding that we can only come to that kind of arrangement if we start from the onset of understanding the end game. If we start with the end in mind, and that end is really for a healthy environment, then we need to know and be accountable for all the decisions we make now and the actions we take now. If we don’t start something with the end in mind and start to do things that are detrimental to yourself in the long haul, that is not good decision making, I am afraid.
So, it’s always about starting, and being responsible for the future.
Kakabadse: I want to comment on this. I think in general, we in the world of conservation have not been marketing our message in the right way because we have always been talking about future generations.
There is a fantastic study that I advise conservationists to look into in the web that is now completed and about to be published by UNEP and it’s a project called Teeb (The Economics of Ecosystems and Biodiversity).
In this project is a compilation of data that managing ecosystems well is good business today.
It’s not good business five generations from now, not even for our children in 30 years.
We should be talking about today’s benefits of doing good business. In conservation, managing water, forests, soil and everything around us well, it’s good business this year.
In that document is producing several products for decision makers of the economic sector in government, for business people, for media and for the public and it will tell us and guide us and give us information why you shouldn’t wait. You can do those investments this way. That’s important, delivering the message in a different way because I think the sceptics are criticising us. You are looking into the ideal world. No, no, no, we are concerned with the present world. That’s real to us.
DE: What might be the impacts on the Coral Triangle if coal-fired plant is up with non-stop discharge of massive waste water into Darvel Bay over decades?
Dr Sharma: The Coral Triangle is a large seascape but we, the six governments which have committed to the security of the Coral Triangle need to hold themselves accountable to each other for their joint commitment. But the various countries go out and take things on a national scale and do things on their own and every country that starts to impact on the same space they had made a commitment for security. That is not going to be a long term model. That may have then been a commitment made without understanding what they have committed to. So, you would find that you have sovereign rights in decision making and go ahead and decide on plants like coal-fired power plant or all kinds of coastal development projects that bring detrimental impacts on the coastal environment.
Every decision made in that irresponsible manner then collectively will have that impact on the commitment and that becomes a contradiction that the right hand is inconsistent with the left hand.
So that is not the model of accountability to each other. As a national organisation, our job is to keep them reminded of the joint commitment, ensuring that the governments constantly come and meet and talk about the joint commitment, keep looking that common plan of action and then escalate their understanding that even national decisions add impacts across that joint space.
So we have to constantly remind them about policy intervention, environmental awareness and education and propose solutions.
Sometimes it is easy to criticise but it is more difficult to find alternate solutions. We have to be leaders in ensuring people that as a science-based organisation, that there are options and let’s start to explore those options because those options invariably don’t compromise our people and development aspirations. We must be pertinent to the government, to the people and the constituencies.
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